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Ashraf Ali Thanwi was one of the elder scholars of the Deobandi Sect. He is well respected by all Deobandi’s around the world including the misguided preachers of 41 mosque Sneinton, Masjid Dirar Lenton, najadi Masjid in Forest Feilds and the fake preachers in Meadows and the Garage prayer house in West Bridgford.
They claim that he was such a big scholar and they give him the status of Sinless. In fact if you was to mention his faults in front of them you would be able to see the fire of anger burning on their face. However, lets see what this so called sinless scholar actually wrote in his book about what he used to get upto you.
Take into consideration that real scholars write about the the rulings of the religion or about the greatness of the Holy Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam and those things that will actually benefit the Muslim Ummah.
Firstly the reference:
Book: Al Ifadaat Al Yaumia
Author: Molwi Ashraf Ali Thanvi
Publisher: Maktab-e-Danish Deoband, U.P. India
Volume: II
Episode: 10
Malfooz: 837
Page: 475
Original Words in Urdu
Transliteration in Urdu
“Mein Ek Roz Peyshaap Kar Raha Tha. Bhai sahab nay aa kar mere sar par Peyshaap karna shuru kar diya. Ek Roz Ayesa Huwa kay Bhai Sahab Peyshaap Kar rahay thaay. Mein nay unkay sar par Peyshaap karna shuru kar diya. Ittefaq sey iss waqt Walid Sahab Tashreef Lay Aaye. Farmaya, Yeh Kya Harkat Hai? Mein Nay Arz Kiya Ek Roz Inhoon nay mere Sur Par Paishaap Kiya Tha. Bhai Nay Iss Ka Bilkul Inkaar Kar diya. Mukhtasir See Pitayee Howi. Iss Liye Kay Mera Dawa tu Dawa Hee Reh Gaya Tha. Zaboot Kuch Na Tha aur Mere Fael Ka Mushahida Tha. Gharz Jou Kissi Ko Na Soojhti Thi, Woh Hum Dono Bhaiyoon Ko Soojhti Thi.”
English Translation
“One day I was urinating. My brother came and started urinating on my head. One day my brother happened to be urinating. I started urinating on his head. Incidently, at the sametime my father came. He said, What is going on? I stated that one day he urinated on my head. My brother happened to completely deny this. I was briefly spanked as my statement were merely a statement. There was no evidence (in my support) whereas my act was observed. Hence, things which would occur to noone used to occur to us two brothers”.
Now I ask you the readers will something like this bring any benefit to the Ummah? Maybe it’s only the Deobandi’s that will gain benefit from it?
Does this latest revelation really come as a surprise considering we already know how much love the Deobandi’s and their elders have for poo and urine?
Read some more articles (with scans from their own books) regarding this love they have
Ashraf Ali Thanwi tastes Cow poo
http://sneintonmuslims.co.uk/?p=302
Deobandi scholars Qur’an can be written with Blood and Urine
http://sneintonmuslims.co.uk/?p=139
The Elders of Deoband and their love for Poo
http://sneintonmuslims.co.uk/?p=137
Please note I have not made anything up which is why I have given the scans and references from their own books!
To all the misguided Deobandis in Nottingham and beyond my challenge to you is to either prove me wrong or find anything similar written by the scholars of the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah!
Stay Safe Stay Sunni!
Details for the Nottingham Milad Jaloos 2012
Date: Sunday 5th February which is the 12th of Rabi-ul-Awwal
Time: 10:30 am
Location: Starting From – Forest Reacreation Ground, Gregory Boulevard
To – Islamic Centre, St Anns
The Jaloos (Milad procession) will finish at Islamic Centre where refreshments shall be served at Islamic Lectures shall be delivered prominent leaders and Scholars. Insha’Allah
This Jaloos is a Must attend for all Sunni’s.
Come and show your Love for the Holy Prophet salllalahu alaihi wassalam
A few days I had a discussion with a Deobandi preacher from Masjid Dirar (Bilal Masjid) Lenton, Nottingham. Obviously he couldnt answer properly when asked about the horrible and disrespectful statements of the elder scholars of Deoband so started banging on about the usual stuff like “Oh brother we should unite the ummah and not spread lies and hatred blah blah etc etc”
So I asked him some simple questions..
“If you and the people of your sect are really worried about unity then why is it that your sect has opened masjid’s really close to established Sunni Masjids? for example 41 mosque sneinton dale is literally 2 mins away from Jamia Masjid Sultania (Sneinton Mosque) and Masjid Dirar (bilal masjid) Lenton is just down the road from Lenton Masjid?”
And I also asked him
“If you and and the people of your sect believe that we should not spread lies and hatred then why is it that you infuence people not to attend established Sunni Masjids and once they start attending your Masjids they start to label the rest of the Muslim’s as idol worshippers and innovators?”
His answer to the first question was..
“It’s good that there are more masjids, we should have more masjids, there should be a masjid in every area”
Readers, how can it ever be good to have more than one masjid in an area? does that not split the congregation? Would it not be better to have a Fajr Prayer with 20 Namazi’s in one mosque rather than 10 in one mosque and 10 in the other mosque?
If that is not disuniting the Ummah then what is? it just proves that their calls to unity are fake, if they were really concerned about uniting the ummah then surely the sensible thing to do would be to close their masjids and establish prayers at the real masjids so that at least the Ummah can meet and pray at the same place.
His answer to the second question really surprised me.
Here is my question again..
“If you and and the people of your sect believe that we should not spread lies and hatred then why is it that you infuence people not to attend established Sunni Masjids and once they start attended your Masjids they label start to label the rest of the Muslim’s as idol worshippers and innovators?”
He replied “But brother if Ahlus Sunnah (Sunni) masjids have a chair (kursi) which they believe that the Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam comes and sits on then it’s obvious that Muslim’s will not want to go and pray there”
Upon this I asked “What are you talking about, when has any Sunni Muslim or any Sunni Masjid said that they have a chair for the Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam to come and sit on?”
He replied “you know the big chair in your mosques, you lot say He sallalahu alaihi wassalam comes and sits there”
My reply “Give me a reference from any of the books of the Ahlus Sunnah, any scholar or even any normal Sunni Muslim that has this belief? you know what you will not be able to because this is a lie that your sect has spread in order to convince ordinary Muslims to come to your mosque instead”
Readers, do you see the hypocrisy of the Deobandi Sect? they say they do not spread lies and hate yet they are happy to accuse the rest of the Muslims that Ahlus Sunnah masjids have a chair for the Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam.
The chair that he is referring to is called a mimbar and a mimbar is from the Sunnah of the Holy Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam. He sallalahu alaihi wassalam used to stand, sit or lean against it whilst delivering sermons and in accordance to the Sunnah the Imams of the Ahlus Sunnah Mosques stand or sit on it whilst delivering sermons (and this is mostly before the Friday Prayers)
So what is the point of lying about it?
Even the ‘Mosques’ of the misguided sects have mimbars! LOL – It’s abit dumb to accuse the rest of the Muslims with this lie when they themselves have the same ‘chairs’ in their own Mosques!
Here are some pics of the different Mimbars in Ahlus Sunnah Masjids in Nottingham and also from the ‘Mosques’ of Misguided Sects.
Picture of Mimbar in Sneinton Masjid (Sunni Masjid)
Picture of the Mimbar that is in Deobandi Masjid Dirar (Bilal Masjid) Lenton, apart from the colour what other difference is there?
Pic of the Mimbar at Jamia Islamia, Hyson Green (Sunni) – You can just about make it out.
Picture of the Mimbar at Islamic Centre (Sunni)
Picture of Mimbar at Karimia Masjid (Sunni)
Picture of the Mimbar at a Wahabi/Deobandi Mosque called ‘Madani’ Masjid, however a better name for it will be Najadi Masjid in Forest Fields.
Even the new Wahabi Mosque in Bobbermill ‘Masjid Umar’ known henceforth as ‘Darul Khawarij’ has a Mimbar – see pic below
This is the pic of the Mimbar from Jamia Masjid In Derby (Sunni Masjid)
And this the pic of the mimbar from the Deobandi Markaz (HQ) in Leicester
So we see that they also have ‘Chairs’ but you dont see Sunni Muslim’s spreading lies about them!
It comes to show that these Misguided Deobandi’s in Nottingham are liars and will stop at nothing to take people away from Established Masjids to fill their own ‘Mosques’ even if it means accusing Millions of Millions of Shirk.
Like I have said time and time again, do not let yourselves get confused and misguided by these lunatics!
Stay Safe Stay Sunni!!
Well as you all must know by now the Deobandi’s from Masjid Dirar(Bilal) in Lenton issued a challenge to the Ahlus Sunnah to a Debate! The Ahlus Sunnah accepted the Challenge and We sent a message to them to give us a time and a neutral location!
Instead the Deobandi’s have backed down on their own challenge and do not want to debate anymore instead they want us to come to their ‘mosque’ and have a question and answer session with their Molvee.
The very Molvee whose father sells Kastoori Taweez for £500 pounds, the Very Molvee who gives out Taweez himself even though according to the Deobandi’s of Sneinton and Lenton wearing a Taweez is Shirk!! such hypocrisy!!
Anyways all that needs to be said is that this is a victory for the Ahlus Sunnah. The misguided Deobandi’s made a challenge then realised that they would be exposed in front of the public so decided to withdraw their challenge!
A Message to all Deobandi’s in Nottingham
The Ahlus Sunnah are still willing to debate you. However the first topic that we will debate is the kufr of the elders of Deoband i.e Ashraf Ali Thanwi, Rashid Gangohi, Qasim Nanotwi and so on..
O Muslims’s Stay Sharp Stay Sunni!!
Deobandis from Masjid Dirar Lenton (Bilal Masjid) have admitted that they believe that Allah ta’ala can LIE. - becoz he all powerful and as a God he can lie. Well then can Allah surf the internet and play football? Or create a mountain he can’t lift?
Alhamdullilah the correct belief is that Allah ta’ala is perfect and is free from lying which is a defect. The view of the Ahlus Sunnah is that Allah ta’ala is Al Haq – the truth.
Sadly the Deobandi sect which was created by the british and is now controlled by the western puppets Saudi Arabia has now made up another attribute for Allah as Al Khazab – The Liar – May Allah ta’ala save us from these people and their beliefs.
They have also tried to brainwash a young Sunni brother by drilling into his head that in Islam you cannot call a Kafir (unbeliever) as a Kafir. Why? because it rebounds on you making him you a kafir?
Where have they got this twisted knowledge from? Their lack of proper knowledge is beggining to show and their ignorance on Islamic matters is prevailing for all to see.
Allah ta’ala Himself says in the Quran
“Qul Ya Ayu Hal Kafiroon”
Say (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)to these Mushrikoon and Kafiroon): “O
Al-Kafiroon (disbelievers in Allah, in His Oneness, in His Angels, in His Books,
in His Messengers, in the Day of Resurrection, and in Al-Qadar, etc.)!
The correct belief and the belief of the Ahlus Sunnah (Sunni Muslims) is that A Muslim cannot call another Muslim Kafir, however there is no harm in calling that person whose kufr (disbelief) has been established as a kafir.
For example the Deobandi Elder, who Deobandi’s all over the world including 41 mosque in Sneinton and Masjid Dirar (bilal) in Lenton love and follow and declare as their saviour, Ashraf Ali Thanvi who was declared as a Kafir by over 500 scholars from the Arab world for his misguided Beliefs regarding Allah ta’ala and the Prophet Muhammad sallalahu alaihi wassalam.
Another thing these Deobandi’s from Masjid Dirar (Bilal Masjid) and 41 Sneinton Dale believe is that You cannot call an unbeliever (kafir) as an unbeliever because that person MIGHT become a Muslim.
Well sorry lads, The great leader of Islam and close Companion of the Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam, Hazrat Umar (Radi Allahu Anhu) said “We Muslim’s go on whats apparant”
If we accept their twised logic then we can’t call a Muslim as a Muslim because that Muslim MIGHT become a Non-Muslim, a person cant call his first cousin as sister because that first cousin MIGHT become his wife.
Also what would the Deobandi’s from Masjid Dirar (Bilal Masjid) and 41 Sneinton Dale make of us this where their senior preacher the ‘PeG LeG’ has called me a Bidati (innovator) according to their own beliefs and logic it has rebounded onto Him hasn’t it?
Well I have said all along that these people are innovators and misguided so The Lenton Deobandi’s have bascally proved me to be correct
A few days ago some young Sunni brothers were in a discussion with a Deobandi Imam from Lenton outside Naseeb’s takeaway. The Sunni brother were explaining to the Deobandi Imam that Ashraf Ali Thanwi was a Kafir due to his horrible beliefs. The Deobandi Imam replied back that Ashraf Ali Thanwi was not a kafir and that the things mentioned were extracts taken from Sunni books lol..
Anyways a Deobandi Molvee from who sells black magic from Masjid Dirar Lenton issued a challenge for a Debate to the Ahlus Sunnah in Nottingham and Alhamdullilah the Ahlus Sunnah has accepted the challenge! A message has been sent to the Misguided sect for arrangment to made regarding time and place.
Lets see if the Deobandi’s step up to the plate! I bet they will just run away like always! Lets hope that they didn’t issue a challenge thinking that the Ahlus Sunnah would stay quite!
*Keep checking for latest developments!
All praise be to Allah azzawajal that the holy month of Rabi-ul-Awwal is again around the corner and I pray that we all get to see it. The month of Rabi-ul-Awwal is HOLY and BLESSED because the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon Him and His Family) was born in it. The Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon Him and His family) was born on the 12th Night of this month.
Rabi-ul-Awwal is also known as Rabi-un-Noor, meaning the month of Light. The Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaat believe that the Holy Prophet - sallalahu alaihi wassalam- is Noor (light) and Bashar (human).
Hazrat’e Sayyiduna Sheikh Abdul Haq Muhaddith Dehlwi(Rahmatullah alaihi) says, ‘Indeed, the night The Holy Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam was born is better than Shab-e-Qadr because on this night The Holy Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam was born and Shab-e-Qadr was given to The Holy Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam. The night which is blessed because of the arrival of the Holy Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam is better than that night which is blessed because of the descent of the angels. (maa sabata bis’sunna, P289)
Billions of Muslims throughout the World celebrate the Holy Birth of the Prophet Muhammad sallalahu alaihi wassalam in this month. In fact the 12th of Rabi-ul-Awwal is a national holiday in every Muslim country except Saudi Arabia and Kuwait (for obvious reason – hint: Wahabism)
There is no doubt in the fact that The Holy Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam arrived as a mercy and indeed that day is a day of happiness when a mercy is sent by Allah az’zawajal . Allah az’zawajal says in the Holy Qur’an, Para 11, Surah Yunus, Verse 58: Say- you, ‘only Allah’s’ grace and only His mercy, on it therefore let them rejoice. That is better than all their wealth.
Allahu-Akbar! To celebrate upon receiving Allah az’zawajal’s blessing is commanded by the Holy Qur’an and can there be a greater mercy than the Holy Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam? It is clearly stated in the Holy Qur’an, Para 17, Surah Al-Ambiya, Verse 107: And We sent you not, but a mercy for all worlds.
There are many ways a person can celebrate this blessed occasion. The most common way is to take part in the Milaad Jaloos (procession) and Alhamdullilah last year 2011 we had the first Milaad Jaloos in Nottingham! Normally local Sunni Mosques will hold a gathering to remember the life of the Holy Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam. I would advise you all to make sure to attend and show your happiness aswell.
Milaad celebrations are not limited to once a year you can celebrate it everyday, just like the dawat-e-islami followers they fast every Monday out of happiness of the Birth of the Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam.
After the death of Abu Lahab, some people of his family saw him in a pitiful state and asked him as to what had happened. He replied, ‘I have received no happiness after leaving you but I receive water through my index finger because by using this finger I freed my slave girl suwaibah. (Bukhari, V1, P153, Hadith No. 5101)
Concerning this narration, Sayyiduna Sheikh Abdul Haq Muhaddith Dehlwi رَحْمَةُ الله عَلَيْه states, in this event there is great evidence for those who celebrate the birth of The Holy Prophet and spend their wealth on this occasion. (When Abu Lahab, who was a strong disbeliever, received the news of the blessed birth of The Holy Prophet , he freed his slave girl suwaibah and because of this he was rewarded, so imagine how much reward that Muslim will get who spends his wealth with full happiness on this occasion. However, it is important that the Milad gathering be pure of music.) (madaari-jun-nubuwwat, V2, P34)
An Islamic scholar says that I saw the Holy Prophet in my dream and asked, ‘Ya Rasool-Allah , do you like it when Muslims celebrate your birth every year?’ The Holy Prophet replied, ‘Whoever is happy with me, I am happy with them.’ (tazkira-tul-wa’izeen, P600)
Sheikh Abdul Haq Muhaddith Dehlvi says, ‘The reward of celebrating the birth of The Holy Prophet is that through his mercy, Allah enters these people into Janna-tun-Naeem. Muslims have always celebrated the birth of the Holy Prophet by cooking feasts, inviting guests and by giving charity in abundance. They express their happiness and spend open-heartedly. Through the blessing of this, Allah showers his blessings upon them.’ (ma sabata bis’sunna, P290)
The main scholar that 41 preachers follow writes
“Celebrating Milad-un-Nabi is similar to that of Hindu’s celebration on birth of their “Kanhia”.” Ref: Barahin-e-Qatia (Pg148, Published By: Muhammad Ishaq Maalik Kutb khana Rahimia Saharanpur in 1365 AH, Written By: Khalil Anbethwi)..
He also writes that you cannot eat the food from these sorts of gatherings because it is haram!and if any food from these events is sent to them then they would throw it out.Thats why you dont see 41 preachers at any milaad events in Nottingham (or throughout the world) because they see it as haram to remember the Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam, In fact we have learnt that they consider it a hindu tradition to have gatherings in which the Prophet is remembered.”
These people claim they are the only true followers of the Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam so then why so much hatred for him? Doesn’t this prove that the preachers of 41 mosque and other deobandi followers are just trying to implement an agenda set by their british masters which is to take away any sort of love and respect for the Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam from the hearts of the Muslim’s.
Have preachers from 41 and bilal mosque not split apart our community for too long? just think about it. We have households in which kids are doing eid on one day and their parents doing it on another day! we have kids calling their parents idol worshippers and innovators.
So it is a practise of the Devil not to celebrate the Milad of the Prophet Sallalahu alaihi wassalam so if these 41 preachers were followers of the Prophet Sallalahu alaihi wassalam would they not then celebrate his birth? Why do they act like followers of the devil? If they were real Muslim’s why do they forbid themselves from being happy on this joyous occasion? And why do they follow people who liken this great festival to a Hindu festival? Surely if they were true Muslim’s they would be celebrating the birth of the Prophet Sallalahu alaihi wassalam. Why is it that for the last 25 years Sneinton Mosque has held functions for this special event yet not once has 41 held any such event in Praise of the Prophet Sallalahu alaihi wassalam? It’s because 41 preachers are not true Muslim’s they are misguided and want to misguide others, they want to take away the love of the Prophet Sallalahu alaihi wassalam from the hearts of the Muslim’s.
Please wake up!
All Praise Be To Allah az’zawajal we are SUNNI and Insha’Allah will Keep the Love of the Prophet sallalahu alaihi wassalam alive in our Hearts!
A Clip Of The Nottingham Milad Jaloos 2011
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